<underfire> Brother's photo, checkpoint borders 3
bracha L. Ettinger
brachale at zahav.net.il
Wed Dec 6 15:27:45 EST 2006
Rene and gabri
I agree with you, I didn't think in terms of ownership but I agree
that it can look like it, so I regret it.
My idea however was the idea of testimony and not of ownership.
To be sure what I say is that
I give up in advance any ownership and any coyright.
The photo is not mine.
best
Bracha
On Dec 6, 2006, at 10:47 AM, Brian Holmes wrote:
> Ahem, speaking of affect, I agree with Rene Gabri. I wanted to puke
> when
> I saw the copyright on that photo. The logic of ownership goes all the
> way to the point of the soldiers gun. And it's all legitimate.
>
> So this is yet another way that political affect circulates today.
>
> best, Brian
>
>
>
> Rene Gabri wrote:
>> Who should have copyright on this image? Bracha L. Ettinger, his
>> brother
>> (who is bracha’s brother?), or the (presumed) unidentified
>> Palestinian
>> male who is subjected to this violence? Who owns this violence?
>> Who owns
>> up to this violence? Where is the intersection between our
>> relations of
>> property and this occupation? Even the violence bestowed upon
>> Palestinians is not their own property? Where is the violence taking
>> place here, in this scene? What is the role of this image in a
>> discussion like this? What deliberations were made in allowing it to
>> remain, to post to the list?
>>
>> I have to say that this session of underfire has for me been the most
>> staged and symptomatic of “orchestration” as opposed to moderation.
>> I wonder just how many posts have been refused? And what are the
>> categories and economies of decision making which determine what
>> stays
>> and what goes?
>>
>> Why did these images remain? What do they communicate? To whom are
>> they
>> intended? And just what is being represented (because maybe we should
>> stop speaking of communication for a minute) here?
>>
>> sincerely, with a little less compassion, rene
>>
>> On 12/5/06 11:45 AM, "Bracha L. Ettinger" <brachale at zahav.net.il>
>> wrote:
>>
>> my emphasis ---> Brother's photo, n.3, 2006 © Bracha L. Ettinger
>>
>>
>>
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